forum because they were asked the same exact question and it wasn't really a debate format and then romney and obama for whatever reason, if it was warren's decision or not, they did not do that this time around. this is the most forthright i've seen rick warren be when asked a political question. >> clayton: yeah, wasn't holding back. he usually do not want to weigh in too terribly much on political questions and tries to elevate the conversation, which he did here as well. but i think that just shows his frustration when you have pastor warren talking that way. it's troubling. fingers crossed. >> gretchen: let's do some headlines now. we have a fox news alert. nato confirming a civilian u.s. contractor shot dead by an afghan police woman in kabul. authorities are treating it as a possible inside job again. at least 52 members of nato forces have been killed this year alone in the so-called green on blue attack where is we train the afghan military and then they turn the guns on the americans. >>> marine veteran recently released from a mexican jail. he and his dad were driving to florida